SECRETARY CLINTON:
Well, good afternoon. Welcome to the Benjamin Franklin Room here in the
State Department. Foreign Minister Lavrov and I have just concluded
another very constructive meeting. It built on the discussions we
started several months ago in Geneva and obviously was very much part of
the work that both of our presidents assigned to their respective
governments coming out of the London summit.
We had serious and open
exchanges about areas of common concerns and are looking forward to
Moscow in July when President Obama and President Medvedev will meet.
We’re making progress on our agendas and there are a number of important
issues for the United States and Russia to discuss. In fact, our
negotiators met agains this week to discuss a replacement for the START
treaty in order to meet our shared commitment to the responsible
management of our nuclear arsenals. Our negotiators are hard at work.
We’re also proceeding with other initiatives to help store – or to stop
the spread of nuclear weapons and to safeguard fissile materials. The
foreign minister and I discussed how we can, through our own efforts
together, set a standard and an example to improve the security of
nuclear facilities and prevent the proliferation of nuclear materiel
around the world.
We exchanged views on a range of important issues,
from Afghanistan, North Korea, the Middle East, Iran, so many other
areas where we have common interests and common concerns, even on areas
where our views may diverge. We both want to achieve stability and
security in Georgia. We are both committed to the NATO-Russia Council to
open up another important channel of dialogue. And we are very focused
on making sure that the United States and Russia have a very vigorous
ongoing dialogue among our two governments. Now Russia has just assumed
the presidency of the United Nations Security Council and will be
leading some important efforts there. We look forward to working with
you on piracy and other matters.
Our bilateral agenda is expanding
to include the financial crisis, our changing climate, and the Arctic.
These are areas where we think it is in our interest to cooperate and it
is in the interest of the world that the United States and Russia do
so.
I’m very grateful to Foreign Minister Lavrov for coming here
today to the State Department. I will be accompanying him to the White
House after lunch for him to spend some time with the President. And
we’re very committed and looking forward to our ongoing relationship.
So again, Minister Lavrov, welcome.
FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV: (Via
interpreter) First of all, I would like to thank Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton for the warm reception for a very productive round of
talks devoted primarily to fulfilling the instructions of the two
presidents, President Medvedev and President Obama, embodied in their
joint statements, adopted at the meeting on April 1
st in London.
And today, we have, in great detail, assessed progress in fulfilling
those instructions. In the context of preparing for the summit in Moscow
in July later this year, we have agreed that very, very soon, we will
announce the concrete date of this forthcoming meeting in accordance
with the tasks set for us by the presidents. We have attached great
importance in our negotiations to strategic stability, including the
preparation of a new arrangement that will replace START I, which will
expire in early December later this year.
Also, we have spent some
time discussing our challenges in missile defense, where the two
presidents have expressed their wish for us to find a foundation for our
joint collaborative efforts. We have reaffirmed this interest in our –
at our – today’s meeting, of course. And this has been mentioned by the
Secretary of State already.
We have a lot to do in the field of
nuclear nonproliferation. This is a field which is one of the most
successful areas of our cooperation. And today, we have outlined some
preliminary steps which will enable us to strengthen security around the
world, which will allow us to lower the risks of nuclear proliferation
around the world. Russia and the United States, as the two largest
nuclear powers, are able to get at the helm of this business and engage
others in collaboration. In the context of our agenda, we have looked at
prospects of preparing the conditions for progress on the Iranian
nuclear program. We also need to resume our negotiations on the nuclear
issue of the Korean Peninsula.
As far as regional issues are
concerned, the Middle East is one of the priorities, and we are grateful
to our American colleagues for their support for the forthcoming
special meeting of the UN Security Council on the Middle East, which
will take place on May 11
th.
Afghanistan is one of the
priorities for the Obama Administration. We realize the importance of
this line of work in American foreign policy, since success or failure
on this track will have repercussions for strengthening security in this
key region of the world. And of course, Russia will continue to support
action of ISAF. It will actively support the growing interest with a
regional factor in the settlement process, which is demonstrated now by
the Obama Administration.
We have discussed the outcomes of the
exchanges that took place yesterday in Washington with the leaders of
Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we believe it is a very important step in
our joint efforts. We welcome the initiative of the United States
President in this regard.
Among the President’s instructions, there
were issues of Euro-Atlantic security, including in the context of
President Medvedev’s initiative, which he put forward last year. And we
have agreed to continue dialogue on this issue at appropriate fora,
including the OSCE and the NATO-Russia Council. And we hope that in the
nearest – in the very near future, any obstacles in the resumption of
the work of the NATO-Russia Council – and such obstacles are absolutely
artificial – we hope that they will be removed very soon, and we hope
that this very important structure will resume its work based on the
principles which were agreed upon before it was founded.
We have a
lot of work to do in the field of economic cooperation. We want more
investment both ways. We want more interaction in the high tech field.
And today, we have looked at ways to support the business communities in
the two countries, including creating the necessary intergovernmental
mechanisms for such support.
On the whole, our negotiations have
been very constructive, and this is characteristic of our two
presidents. The style is characteristic of our two presidents. And it is
important, in order to implement the positive agenda of the
U.S.-Russian relations, we need to normalize this relationship, we need
to get rid of any negative heritage from the past. And we need to raise
our relationship to a new level. I absolutely agree with the Secretary
of State in that we are not turning a blind eye to the difficulties that
exist. Of course, they’re natural for relations between any major
powers.
But what is fundamentally important is that we openly and
sincerely discuss those differences, and we seek to find solutions that
would take into account the interests of all parties concerned that
would allow us to reach compromise. This is the practical implementation
of the equitable efforts that our presidents have agreed upon, and I am
looking forward to the forthcoming months with optimism, in the course
of which we will prepare for the Moscow summit. I hope that our efforts
will be successful. Thank you.
MODERATOR: We’ll go with four questions. First question is from Sue Pleming with Reuters.
QUESTION:
You both symbolically hit the reset button in Geneva, but the results
so far appear to be mixed. Secretary Clinton, are you concerned over
Russia’s role in Georgia, and also its sphere of influence?
And
Foreign Minister Lavrov, could NATO’s exercises in Georgia and U.S.
support for ultimate NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine poison arms
control talks such as those involving START?
SECRETARY CLINTON:
Well, first let me say that because we have such a comprehensive
agenda, we are moving on many issues simultaneously. And we judge each
issue on its merits. They are part of our ongoing relationship, which,
as Minister Lavrov said, is very productive and constructive.
We
have expressed on several occasions our concerns about Georgia. We have
had the opportunity to discuss the conditions on the ground there and
the need for stability. And I believe that Minister Lavrov as well as
the Russian Government recognize that stability and a peaceful
resolution to the tensions in Georgia is in everyone’s interest.
But
it is, I think, old thinking to say that we have a disagreement in one
area, therefore we shouldn’t work in something else that is of
overwhelming importance. That’s just not the way we think. If you look
at what we’re doing on START and nonproliferation, that has to do with
the future safety of the world, and the United States and Russia bear a
special responsibility. So we are working very hard together. Where we
disagree, which all great countries disagree – people in families
disagree – is to see how we can lower the tensions, look for, as
Minister Lavrov said, compromise, find practical solutions. So we
discuss all of these issues.
But at the end of the day, we have a
responsibility to fulfill the directives that our presidents gave when
they set forth their statement, which represented a comprehensive
approach to many issues that we can work well together on.
FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV:
(Via interpreter) I can only add that the task of further reductions of
strategic offensive weapons is too important, both for Russia and the
United States and for the entire world, in fact, to make it hostage of
any particular regime anywhere around the globe.
As far as the
situation in the Caucasus, especially in the South Caucasus, we have
discussed it today. True, we do have obvious differences. We do not
conceal those. But we agree on one thing: We need to do our best in
order to achieve stability there. This is what the Secretary of State
has just said.
And we also agree that we need to contribute in every
possible way to preventing any new outbreaks of ethnic tension. We need
to facilitate the establishment of procedures to ensure the observance
of human rights. And of course, international organizations, including
the UN, can play their role. The UN has worked in Georgia and Abkhazia
for quite a while. And of course, the OSCE has a role to play. It should
not be disregarded. And the negotiations that will take place in Vienna
in order to find mutually acceptable arrangements will make it possible
to resume the presence of the OSCE. In South Ossetia, of course, we
need to find parameters that would be acceptable for all those who will
be performing their missions, who will be receiving relevant missions in
their respective territories.
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) TV
Channel Russia. My question is to both the minister and the Secretary
of State. Over the past year, we have piled up a lot of sensitive issues
in the U.S.-Russian relations. We have – you have mentioned some of
them, such as the deployment of elements of missile defense in Eastern
Europe, economic issues, regional policy issues. How would you
characterize the priorities? How would you prioritize these issues? And
do you have scenarios to resolve all these issues?
SECRETARY CLINTON:
Well, that is why Minister Lavrov and I are working so hard together to
create a mechanism and a framework for us to address as many of these
important issues as possible. There are many priorities. I think, as you
can tell from listening to the two of us, our leadership in the area of
arms control and nonproliferation is of such profound global concern
that that is at the top of the list.
But there are so many other
important matters that we are dealing with. And one of the areas that we
discussed today is how we’re going to suggest to our presidents for
their summit a way forward. Because I couldn’t agree more with what
Sergey said; we want to normalize the relationship and raise it to a new
level.
And we are involved both bilaterally and through groups like
P-5+1, the Quartet, and, of course, the larger multilateral groups like
OSCE or the United Nations. And we’re going to work in each of those
fora to try to see how much leadership and cooperation we can provide.
Speaking just for myself, the number of challenges facing the world
right now needs the best thinking from people all over the world. And I
have a great deal of respect and regard for my counterpart in Russia and
for the Russian people and for the kind of contribution that we can
make together if we keep working with each other, and we think forward,
not backward. And that’s what we’re trying to do.
FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV:
(Via interpreter) Since this question was addressed to both of us, I
would like to add a couple of words. I fully agree with what has just
been said by the Secretary of State. We should now, within the framework
of resetting our relationship, create new mechanisms that would
function in a mode that will enable us to progress on all tracks, be it
political dialogue or military cooperation or regional conflicts or the
situation in the world in general. We need to be able to agree to
address tasks on which we agree, and we need to lower the number of
issues on which we disagree. This is what we’re talking about.
Now,
as far as missile is concerned, I would like to correct you a little
bit. You have said that the deployment that has started. No, this
deployment has not started there yet. And as we know, the strategic
review which is now pursued by the Obama Administration is still
underway and it covers the issue of missile defense. Our American
partners have reaffirmed to us that within the framework of this review,
they are looking at proposals that Russia has put forward. These
include the well-known proposal that President Putin put forward in July
of 2007, and those are – there are additional initiatives that we have
also given to our American colleagues recently, in particular, in the
course of my previous meeting with Hillary. We have an interest in
achieving agreements that would be a common denominator both for Russia
and the United States and our shared European partners.
QUESTION:
Minister Lavrov, Secretary Clinton assured the U.S. Congress earlier
this month that the United States has successfully laid the groundwork
with its P-5+1 allies for – quote, unquote – “crippling” international
sanctions against Iran in the event that Tehran fails to suspend its
pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. Is that true? Because the last
time that you were heard from on this subject was when you, speaking for
the Russian Government, stated on April 11 – quote – “It would be
unrealistic to expect us to raise pressure on Iran.” So which is it,
sir?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I have to slightly correct my
reporter, Sergey, since you slightly corrected your reporter. See, we
are very mutually reinforcing.
We are in the process of laying the
groundwork for making the case for tougher sanctions. We have not laid
the groundwork. And I think that the case that we’re making to our
partners in the P-5+1 is to reach out to Iran, which we agreed to do,
and have made a proposal to the Iranians. But we are very watchful as to
how Iran responds, and we will continue to consult with and hope that
we can make progress based on the kind of proposals that we’re
interested in pursuing.
FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV: (Via
interpreter) I would like to add that as far as the Iranian nuclear
program is concerned, there are many aspects there, which is equally
true of the sanctions which apply to Iran. It is not that simple. There
are collective decisions adopted in the United Nations Security Council,
and those oblige all countries in the world to behave in a particular
way and to fulfill certain requirements.
But there are also
unilateral sanctions that the United States or the European Union have
imposed in addition to the United Nations Security Council with regard
to Iran. We do not think that this does not fully help to live up to the
challenge. We keep telling our partners that unilateral sanctions are
not in line with our collective actions. But those decisions are made by
the United States or the European Union.
As far as they are
concerned, we are going to adhere to the agreements reached within the
format of P-5+1. Those arrangements quite recently were supplemented
significantly and were developed significantly at the meeting of the
representatives of the six countries in London, and those proposals have
been conveyed to the Iranian side. We have heard from Iran something to
the effect that Iran does not oppose these proposals. Iran has its own
proposals which we are ready to discuss. And currently, we can see the
taking shape of preconditions that will make it possible to prepare for
real negotiations based on the proposals that we have on the table.
I
have never said that we are against any pressure on Iran. I have just
said that we did not see the meaning, the sense in any harsh sanctions
against Iran. But as far as pressure is concerned, if we understand by
pressure, the efforts aimed at convincing Iran to return to the
negotiations table – we are applying such efforts in an active and
robust manner.
Ria Novosti, please.
QUESTION: (Via
interpreter) Mr. Lavrov, to sum up the results achieved in the recent
period since the pushing of the famous button, what, in concrete terms,
has been achieved in our relations?
(In English) As far as I
remember, your husband has succeeded in dealing with North Korea by
sending Madeleine Albright to Pyongyang where she joined the company of
Kim Jong-il at a reception party nine years ago. Is it possible that you
will also go to Pyongyang to try to find a solution on the spot of the
current crisis? Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, that’s
what Sergey was doing in North Korea. He was advancing my trip.
(Laughter.) No, I have no plans of going to North Korea. We will be
sending our Special Envoy, Ambassador Bosworth, out to the region to
discuss our next steps. I agree with Minister Lavrov’s perspective after
his recent visit that we have to try to get the North Koreans back into
the Six-Party Talk framework and continue the denuclearization of the
Korean Peninsula. We may have to show some patience before that is
achieved. But we agree on the goal that we are aiming for.
FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV: (Via
interpreter) Coming back to your first question, in our introductory
remarks, we gave our assessment of what has been achieved.
Just to
sum up very briefly, in an unprecedentedly short period of time, we have
been able to prepare two key documents that have been approved by
Presidents Medvedev and Obama at their first meeting in London. Those
are not just statements containing kind and nice words addressed to each
other. Those are substantive documents that chart the course of our
further joint efforts for our relationship to reach a qualitatively new
level in the interest of our people, in the interest of international
stability.
And the fact that the documents were adopted is something
which I consider a great result of the efforts that we have undertaken,
and this is not it. It is one thing to set a task. It is a totally
different thing to fulfill this task. Therefore, a lot of efforts will
still need to be made. Therefore, we have a schedule of expert meetings
and other meetings that we have agreed upon today, and will require that
our people adhere to this schedule.
But the outcome – the main
outcome of the first summit meeting between President Obama and
President Medvedev is that they have registered the level of trust for
each other. They have registered the level of effort on both sides
towards consensus. And for us, this is a directive which we are
fulfilling. Thank you.