Remarks With Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal
Remarks
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Treaty Room
Washington, DC
July 31, 2009
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SECRETARY CLINTON:
Well, good afternoon, and thank you very much for being here. It is a
pleasure for me to welcome His Royal Highness Prince Saud here back to
the State Department, a building he has spent more time in than I have.
(Laughter.) So it’s a delight and an honor.
I think it is so
self-evident but bears repeating that Saudi Arabia has been a close
friend and ally of the United States for many years. Our partnership is
grounded in mutual respect and mutual interest. Our two nations seek to
maintain an open and active dialogue on a wide range of bilateral,
regional, and global challenges, including achieving a comprehensive
peace in the Middle East based on the two-state solution, ending Iran’s
pursuit of nuclear weapons, confronting violent extremism, and
encouraging economic recovery and growth.
Today, Prince Saud and I
discussed ways we can broaden and deepen our partnership, including the
continuation of the U.S.-Saudi Strategic Dialogue, something that was
discussed between His Majesty the King and President Obama.
I
thanked the Prince for the leadership that King Abdullah and his
government has shown by championing the Arab Peace Initiative. The wide
support for the King’s plan is very encouraging. But of course, we need
to do more to realize the rights of Palestinians and Israelis to live in
peace and security in two states, side by side.
And the United
States is working very closely and intensely with the Israelis on the
issues of settlements and easing living conditions for the Palestinians,
and with the Palestinian Authority on improving security and ending
incitement on the West Bank and in Gaza.
We have also asked the Arab
states, including our friends in Saudi Arabia, to work with us to take
steps to improve relations with Israel, to support the Palestinian
Authority, and to prepare their people to embrace the eventual peace
between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Saudi Arabia’s continued
leadership is absolutely vital to achieve a comprehensive and lasting
peace.
Prince Saud and I also discussed our other efforts to address
regional security challenges. I want to underscore publicly what the
Prince knows and His Majesty the King knows: The U.S. commitment to
Saudi Arabia’s security is unwavering. We share concerns about the
destabilizing role that Iran has played throughout the region and the
continued expansion of its nuclear program and its support for
terrorism. At the same time, we are working together to deny terrorists
safe haven and access to funding, particularly in Afghanistan and
Pakistan.
I also appreciate His Majesty the King’s and the Prince’s
efforts for Saudi Arabia’s leadership within the G-20 and our mutual
response to the global economic crisis.
I am also personally very
pleased by the steps that His Majesty the King is taking to implement
reforms, including appointing the Kingdom’s first female official as
deputy minister of education. The work that the King is doing on
educational reform and judicial system reform and championing interfaith
dialogue is very important. And I was excited to hear about the
upcoming opening of the King Abdullah University in Saudi Arabia for
graduate study that will be focusing on the modern sciences.
So, Your
Royal Highness, thank you. Thank you for your years of friendship, and
thank you for making this visit and our commitment to continuing our
dialogue. I look forward to working with you in the future on behalf of
our nations and our common goals for the world.
FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD:
Madame Secretary, thank you for your kind invitation and for the
wonderful lunch that we just had. Frankly, I thought at one point that
our meeting would be at a health facility, instead of the State
Department. (Laughter.) I am glad to say that we have both recovered
enough to face the media, and both know how dangerous that is.
To our
friends in the media, I would like to say that our meeting was
productive and fruitful. Our two nations have been friends and allies
for over seven decades. We have seen the coming and breaking of many
storms. Over time, our relationship has grown stronger, broader, and
deeper. And our discussion today reflected the maturity of this
relationship. It was frank, honest, and open, as discussion between
friends must be.
Today, our two nations are working closely to
promote peace between Palestinians and Israelis, to encourage
reconciliation in Lebanon, to stabilize Pakistan and Afghanistan, to
combat terrorism, and to emphasize the need for Iran to adhere to its
obligation under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. And we consult on
many more political issues as well, as global economic matters, energy
and the environment. We have a large commercial relationship that
benefits both our people. As you can see, we have a long list of common
challenges and opportunities ahead of us. And I can say that our common
interests make it incumbent upon us to closely coordinate our efforts.
Given
the large number of issues we deal with, our two nations established a
Strategic Dialogue in 2005. The Strategic Dialogue was designed to
institutionalize the relationship between our two relevant countries and
it served its purpose well. Today, the Secretary and I discussed ways
to enhance its productivity and to make it more relevant to the
challenges our two nations face.
I would be remiss if I didn’t
express our thanks and appreciation to President Obama and to Secretary
Clinton for their early and robust focus on trying to bring peace to the
Middle East. I expressed to the Secretary our view that a bold and
historic step is required to end this conflict and divert the resources
of the region from war and destruction to peace and development.
It
is time for all people in the Middle East to be able to lead normal
lives. Incrementalism and a step-by-step approach has not and-- we
believe-- will not achieve peace. Temporary security,
confidence-building measures will also not bring peace. What is required
is a comprehensive approach that defines the final outcome at the
outset and launches into negotiations over final status issues: borders,
Jerusalem, water, refugees and security.
The whole world knows what
a settlement should look like: withdrawal from all the occupied
territories, including Jerusalem; a just settlement for the refugees;
and an equitable settlement of issues such as water and security. The
Arab world is in accord with such a settlement through the Arab Peace
Initiative adopted at the 2002 Arab Summit in Beirut which not only
accepted Israel, but also offered full and complete peace and normal
relations in exchange for Israeli withdrawal from all Arab territories
occupied in ’67. This initiative was adopted unanimously by the Islamic
countries at Makkah Summit in 2005.
Today, Israel is trying to
distract by shifting attention from the core issue- an end to the
occupation that began in ’67 and the establishment of a Palestinian
state to-- incidental issues such as academic conferences and civil
aviation matters. This is not the way to peace. Israel must decide if it
wants real peace, which is at hand, or if it wants to continue
obfuscating and, as a result, lead the region into a maelstrom of
instability and violence.
The question is not what the Arab world
will offer. That has been established. But an end to the conflict,
recognition, and full normal relations as exist between countries at
peace. The question really is: What will Israel give in exchange for
this comprehensive offer? And remember, what Israel is asked to give in
exchange for peace, namely the return of the occupied territories, never
belonged to it in the first place. Israel hasn’t even responded to an
American request to halt settlements which President Obama described as
illegitimate.
Allow me to conclude by saying that I was pleased to
discuss the issues with the Secretary, and I appreciated hearing her
views on it. I thank you, Madame Secretary.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you very much.
MR. CROWLEY: We’ll go to question with David Gollust of VOA.
QUESTION:
Madame Secretary, I just – the foreign minister’s very strong
opposition, obviously, to confidence-building measures before a
comprehensive settlement, I wonder if that for you means that it makes
it very difficult for success in this process because, of course,
Senator Mitchell has made the search for confidence-building measures on
each side as an interim step to a comprehensive settlement as something
he’s seeking. Does this complicate your – the Administration’s efforts
at peacemaking?
SECRETARY CLINTON: No, I don’t think so at
all. I think that the efforts we are undertaking are to create a
negotiation that will lead to a comprehensive settlement in the
interests of both the Palestinian and the Israeli people. There are many
aspects to this. Some of them were mentioned – security, water,
borders, refugees, Jerusalem. All of these have to be discussed and
agreed to by the parties.
Our intention is to try to get agreement
from the parties to be part of such a negotiation and to begin it, and
to begin it with the intention of finishing it and resolving all of the
issues in a comprehensive way. What the Arab Peace Initiative did, very
importantly, was to obtain unanimous support, as His Royal Highness
said, to the proposition there should be a two-state solution; that as a
part of that two-state solution, there should be a recognition of
Israel and relations with Israel.
We know that this is all in the
process that has to be undertaken, and we are looking forward to seeing
the parties sitting down at the negotiating table, supported not only by
the United States, but by other nations led by Saudi Arabia and the
Arab and Muslim nations that signed on to the Arab Peace Initiative.
QUESTION: You don’t see that as a setback?
SECRETARY CLINTON: No, not at all.
MR. CROWLEY: Next question from Al Arabiya.
QUESTION:
Thank you. Judging by what – judging by what we just heard, it seems
that the differences between the United States and Saudi Arabia are
fundamental on this issue, and it seems to me that the talks between
President Obama and King Abdullah and the talks now are not narrowing
the divide between the two – two divergent approaches. I mean, you talk
about incremental measures, confidence-building measures, and the prince
is talking about comprehensive approach in one fell swoop.
I mean,
how – this has been – you have been at it for six months. I mean, this
is for both of you: How are you going to reconcile these clearly
divergent views?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I don’t see it that
way, and that’s what I just said. There is no substitute for a
comprehensive resolution. That is our ultimate objective. In order to
get to the negotiating table, we have to persuade both sides that they
can trust the other side enough to reach that comprehensive agreement.
We
also know that there are a series of issues that have to be resolved.
As His Royal Highness said and as I have just repeated, you have to take
those issues by issues, but within the negotiation for the
comprehensive peace agreement. That’s not a contradiction. Senator
Mitchell has a lot of experience in negotiations, and he knows that
oftentimes the hardest part is getting people to sit down across from
the table. When you listen to him and he talks, for example, about his
negotiations in Northern Ireland, he finally got them to sit at a table,
but it took about a year for them to talk to each other.
So what
we’re trying to do here is to say, look, everyone knows there are
certain issues that have to be agreed upon. We’re not starting with a
blank slate. There are border issues that must be agreed upon for the
Palestinian people to have a viable state. There are security issues
that must be agreed upon for the Israeli people to feel that they can
live side-by-side. That’s all part of the comprehensive agreement, but
of course there are specific issues that will go into making up that
comprehensive agreement.
QUESTION: Your Highness, if the
Obama Administration gets a full settlement freeze, would your country
or the Arabs do anything in return?
FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD: Freeze?
QUESTION: Yeah.
FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD:
Well, of course, a settlement freeze Israel has refused. And this is
why we believe that making conditions right for a settlement is not by
making gestures. It is by delving into the real issues. As the Secretary
has said, that is what will make peace. And remember, giving up
settlement is not something that Israel is giving. It is giving right,
but it is not theirs. I mean, it is obvious that the withdrawal from
these settlements is not something to be (inaudible) for Israel, but an
important first step to real negotiations on the real issues which
separate the two people, and to make peace with them.
QUESTION:
Samir Nader with Radio Sawa. Your Highness, did you hear anything
encouraging from the Secretary or Senator Mitchell that will enable the
Kingdom to take some steps to help the U.S. in its efforts?
And to
the Secretary, Madame Secretary, are you considering lifting Sudan –
removing Sudan from the list of state that supports terrorism?
FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD: Of
course (inaudible) is encouraging. I haven’t heard any discouraging
remark that I could mention. And we are especially impressed by the
President and the Secretary taking this issue right now at a time so
early in the Administration. This is a positive step that we think is
going to lead, hopefully, to a breakthrough in the negotiations. And the
role of the United States, it is safe to say, is necessary in order to
achieve any breakthrough in the negotiations. And since there is this
serious intent and serious application to it, we think there is a chance
for success.
SECRETARY CLINTON: With respect to your
question, Samir, we have made no decision to lift the listing on the
terrorist list of Sudan. As you know, there is a very intensive review
going on within the Administration concerning our policy towards Sudan,
but no decisions have been made.
MR. CROWLEY: Last question,
Al Hayat.
QUESTION: Yes, hi. Joyce Karam with
Al Hayat
newspaper. Madame Secretary, my question to you is: Is the U.S.
position still for a complete settlement freeze, or are you willing to
take some exceptions here and there in East Jerusalem or some of the
reconstruction that’s still going on?
And Your Highness, I want to
ask you: What’s the Saudi position in case comprehensive negotiations
resume? Do you want these negotiations to focus on the
Palestinian-Israeli track, or do you prefer a multilateral approach that
would involve also the Syrian and the Lebanese tracks?
SECRETARY CLINTON:
Well, with respect to your question, thank you. We are very deep into
the discussions led by Senator Mitchell, and I don’t want to preempt or
preview what he is doing. But we are working very hard to position the
Israeli Government and the Palestinian Authority to be able to sit down.
And we know there has to be some preliminary work done, including a
number of issues, not just the one that you mentioned. But we feel like
we’re making headway, and we are determined to do so in a matter of as
short a period of time as possible. I can’t put a deadline on that; I
don’t believe in that. But I think that Senator Mitchell returned from
his latest trip with a clear idea of how best to get the negotiations
started.
FOREIGN MINISTER SAUD: And for the last part of your
question, of course, you know the Arab peace plan talks about full peace
in the Middle East, total peace on all aspects of – whether between
Syria and Israel, Lebanon and Israel, or Syria (inaudible), and above
and beyond that, peace with all the Arab country. And now, after it was
accepted by the Islamic countries, with all the Islamic countries. That
is what is offered (inaudible).
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you.
MR. CROWLEY: Thank you very much.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you all very much.
Remarks With Chief of the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs of the Swiss Federation Micheline Calmy-Rey
Remarks
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Treaty Room
Washington, DC
July 31, 2009
SECRETARY CLINTON:
This is my second meeting with the federal councilor, and I am
delighted to welcome her to the State Department. Our first meeting was
in Geneva. At that time, we discussed a broad range of issues, and
today, we will, of course, be doing the same, both bilateral as well as
regional and global.
We’re very grateful to the Swiss Government
for the role that they play representing us in countries like Iran,
serving to mediate longstanding issues between countries like Armenia
and Turkey. And so we really welcome the involvement and support that
the Swiss Government gives to so many important causes around the world.
And
of course, today, it’s especially fitting that the federal councilor
would be here. There has been an agreement reached in a litigation that
was just reported to the court in Florida that confirms there has been
an understanding between the Swiss Government and our government over
the ongoing litigation concerning UBS. Our governments have worked very
hard on this to reach that point, and so we’re very pleased that the
announcement was made this morning.
MS. CALMY-REY: Thank
you. I am very happy to be here today and to have the opportunity to
discuss with State Secretary Clinton. The United States and the State
Department are very important partner for Switzerland, and we are
discussing the important international and bilateral issues, and we are
very – of course, very satisfied today with the news of – concerning
UBS, that an agreement in principle have been reached. So I’m very happy
to begin my discussions with her. Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you so much. Thank you.
MS. CALMY-REY: Thank you.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, do you still have outstanding issues about bank secrecy and tax evasion?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, there’s been an agreement in principle.