Town Hall Meeting With Youth and Civil Society
Remarks
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Tripoli University
Tripoli, Libya
October 18, 2011
SECRETARY CLINTON:
Thank you very much, President Krekshi and to all the deans and faculty
and students of Tripoli University. Good afternoon. I am deeply honored
to be here with you today. I appreciate greatly the president’s kind
words about the support that our government provided. But the victory is
yours, the future is yours, and it is a personal honor to be here in
the heart of a liberated Tripoli, speaking to a brave generation of
Libyans.
I know that more than 30 years ago students from this university came
to this very spot to engage in historic protests, and their voices were
crushed by the Qadhafi regime. But today, because of the courage of the
Libyan people, we can be here together to have a conversation about
what you hope for your futures and what partnership the United States
can offer. So on behalf of all of the people of my country, I
congratulate all of the people of the new Libya. Libya, (in Arabic.) It
is wonderful to be here. (Applause.)
The last seven months have been historic, not only for Libyans, but
indeed for the world, because you have faced your challenges and
conducted your revolution with courage and commitment. You demanded the
rights and the dignity of a free people, and you withstood the brutal
assaults from those who were only wedded to the past. And now we have a
new era. There will be new stories written about Libya in the history
books.
But what will that story be? That, to me, is the question of the day.
If you are committed to a new Libya, then how will you make your
contributions? The structures of oppression have been torn down, but new
structures are only being imagined now. So what – excuse me – (coughs) –
I talk way too much. (Laughter.) What we all have to determine is how
you turn to reconciliation and create an inclusive Libya that guarantees
human rights and dignity, that delivers jobs and opportunities, that
governs itself under respect for the rule of law.
Now, every democracy reflects the unique choices and passions of its
people. That is one of democracy’s great strengths. We do not expect
your democracy to be exactly like our democracy. We come from different
backgrounds, we have different histories, and yet there are certain
fundamentals about democracy that we think are more likely to produce a
better outcome.
A democracy makes a virtue of the diversity of its people. No
democracy can function effectively unless every group contributes. So
Libya will need the talents of all of its people, young people, women,
people from every part of the country. I feel strongly that in the weeks
and months ahead, as you make these decisions about how to shape your
democracy, women need to be part of that decision making. Because women
defied Qadhafi’s troops, women supported the revolution.
I was struck by a quote that I read of a woman who was asked by a
reporter why she took such great risks to be part of this revolution,
and she responded by saying, “For God, for tasting freedom, for our
land, for our liberty, for the future.” Well, that is what people who
fight for their freedom believe, and women must be part of the new
Libya.
The same is true for young people. This rising generation here at the
university has given so much, and I agree with the president that you
expect so much as well. And those expectations are warranted, but it
will take time, effort, and some patience to achieve the goals that you
seek.
We will be here as your partner. We will continue to emphasize the
importance of the rule of law, respect for human rights, trade and
investment, and the importance of civil society, academic institutions,
and learning. We want to provide care and treatment for Libya’s war
wounded, and we want to increase our educational exchanges. We will be
funding English classes for disabled war veterans. We will resume
educational exchanges and institute, once again, the Fulbright Program.
In fact, we will double the numbers of those who will come to the United
States to study. Through our Middle East Partnership Initiative, we
want to connect up young Libyans from one end of your vast country to
another.
There are so many possibilities and there are so many challenges. And
what I want to do for my time with you is to hear from you, hear what
you would like from the United States, hear what you would like from
your new government. We have members with us from the Transitional
National Council, who I know are interested as well in hearing from the
young people of their country.
So with your permission, I would like to turn now to soliciting your
views and your questions, and I will, to the best of my ability, respond
to any question that is directed at me. So how shall we proceed? Shall I
call on people, and you will bring them the microphone? Is that
appropriate? All right. So who would be the brave person who wants to go
first?
Yes, I saw your hand right there, the young women in the second row.
And if your question is in Arabic we will have it translated before I
try to answer it so I know what it was.
QUESTION: Hi. (Inaudible) organization for women and children. I’d like to welcome you to Libya. I hope you enjoy it.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you.
QUESTION: My question, Libyan women went through tough times
throughout this revolution. (Inaudible) – she got tortured, arrested,
she lost her son, brother, and husband. What is the message you would
like to send to Libyan women, and as a woman would you like to – do you
hope to see a Libyan woman as a foreign minister or a president maybe of
this country? Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: I think that Libyan women have the same
rights as Libyan men. I would hope for a future of democracy and
equality and opportunity for all. And I say that for these reasons:
First, it is hard to imagine how Libya – the new, free Libya – will
become a democracy and leave out half of the population. That doesn’t
add up to me. That’s not what I hear or see from the Libyans who have so
bravely fought for their freedom. And I don't know any country that can
succeed to the extent expected if half of the population is denied the
opportunity to participate. So in this new democracy, I would hope to
see the rights and responsibilities of women be given full inclusion.
Secondly, women did suffer during this revolution, as you yourself
have just said. And we know that from the reports that came out of
Libya, that are still coming out of places like Sirte. Women suffered
because they demanded their own rights and were personally mistreated,
and women suffered because they sent their sons and their husbands and
saw their fathers and their brothers go off to fight for their freedom.
So I think women in Libya have earned the right to be given the same
opportunity to help build a new Libya.
And finally, I have had the privilege of traveling to over 90
countries as Secretary of State. I’ve been in all kinds of countries
with all kinds of governments, and I have seen the very significant
contributions that women can make. I just met – for example, you said
foreign minister – I just met with the foreign minister of Bangladesh,
who is a woman. I was in Indonesia recently and meeting with the finance
minister of Indonesia, who is a woman. I’ve been in Malaysia and met
with the governor of the Central Bank in Malaysia, who is a woman. Many
of the countries that are Muslim majority and democratic, such as the
three I just named, have recognized the importance of including women
and giving women the opportunity to serve their country, to start
businesses, to teach in universities, and to pursue their own God-given
potential.
So I believe strongly that this will be important for women, but it
will be equally important for men in a new Libya. And the United States
will support organizations that are committed to ensuring that women can
become active, responsible participants in Libyan society. I met two
young women, as I was walking in, who are from a new organization called
Voices of Libyan Women. And I thank them for taking on this important
responsibility, and we will look forward to assisting you.
Yes.
QUESTION: Hi. My name is (inaudible).
SECRETARY CLINTON: Here comes the microphone.
QUESTION: Thank you. My name is (inaudible). I – first of all,
I would like to welcome you here, and I volunteer with the university
to help rebuild this university. I would like to ask you, many people
feel that the U.S. had taken the backseat in terms of helping this
revolution. Would you see the U.S. taking the lead on terms of
rebuilding this country and helping? And if so, what kind of resources
would you be providing and the most suitable tools to help rebuild this
country?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, first, I think it’s fair to say that
the United States played a unique leadership role in what happened in
Libya, because we wanted to be sure, number one, that there was an
international coalition in support of Libya. And I’m very pleased that
there was. It was quite historic that you had the UN passing strong
resolutions, which the United Nations was on the lead on, and then you
had NATO coming together to protect civilians, and the Arab League,
which had called for action, actually having member states participate
in that coalition, the no-fly zone, the maritime embargo. The United
States was actively involved, but we also thought it was important that
there be a broad base of support for the Libyan revolution, and indeed,
there has been. So we are very pleased by that.
We also have said – and part of the reason for my trip is to
emphasize our commitment to helping Libya navigate through this next
period of your history. Now, unlike many countries in the world that
find themselves free of a dictatorship, Libya is blessed with natural
resources and human resources that you don’t often find in many other
countries. Yes, you do have oil, and now maybe that oil can be used for
the benefit the Libyan people, not to enrich a relatively small group of
powerful people.
And you have human resources. This great university is a testament to
that. You have a lot of expertise within the Libyan people themselves,
and certainly the Libyan Diaspora that came back to help win your
freedom. So I don’t know that it’s so much, in Libya’s case, a question
of money as it is getting expertise, technical assistance, and support
for what you already intend to do. And I told both Chairman Jalil and
Prime Minister Jibril we intend to support you on that. So I really
believe that Libya is as well positioned as any country in recent
history to make this journey to democracy successfully.
Now, that’s not to say it’s going to be easy, because it will not be
easy. You have to unify your country. You know what people say. People
say, “Well, Libya can’t be unified. You have the east, you have the
west, you have the south. You have only six million people in this huge
country. You have unprotected borders. You have so many different tribal
interests.” Well, I don’t believe that. I think that you have enough of
a commitment to your future to bring people together and to create that
national unity, and you all will have to work on it.
I think there are several dangers, and the president referred to one.
Everybody wants what they want, and they want it now. I mean, if I had a
magic wand, I would have brought it with me, and I would leave it here,
but I do not. And that means that it is going to take longer than
anybody wants it to take. But you have to start on this journey step by
step, and you have to be somewhat patient with each other as you try to
work out how to organize yourselves.
But I have every confidence you will be successful, and the United
States will help you. We’ll help you with resources, with technical
expertise, with any kind of support for elections and for economic
opportunities. You name it; we are ready to be helpful to you, but want
it to be your priorities, not anybody else’s.
So many hands. How about this gentleman in the third row? Right there.
QUESTION: Hi. My name is (inaudible). I’m at the (inaudible).
And thank you for every word that you said to encourage and support our
revolution here. My question is: One of my goals in Libya is helping
more young people to become part of the global community. What steps do
you think Libyan youth should be begun with after the work to become
effective partners in the global community?
SECRETARY CLINTON: I think that’s a very important question,
because the more Libya gets integrated into the regional and global
community, the stronger Libya will be. Now, I know that you have
communicated with one another and with people around the world through
the internet, which is one way of being connected up to the global
community. I read an interesting story about a young man here, I think,
at the university, who was working to contact people in other countries
that had gone through similar transitions to ask for their personal
advice, and I think that kind of outreach is very important. So I would
encourage you to do it, and maybe even in an organized way, to create a
site where people around the world who want to help Libya, who want to
contribute to Libya, who believe strongly in what you’re doing, can find
a way to be of assistance. So it’s a two-way street; you’re not only
reaching out, but people are reaching in.
I think when it comes to economic integration, this part of the
world, namely all of North Africa, in fact, most of the African
continent and the Middle East, have not been as open economically as I
think would benefit you. So when you think about integrating into the
global economy, think about how you can tear down barriers so there can
be more trade, more commerce, more activity coming and going. Because
right now, there isn’t as much as there should be, and I think there
could be a lot more that would benefit Libya.
One idea that I know people in Libya are exploring is: How do you
make sure that the money you earn from your oil goes to benefit the
Libyan people? And there are several examples. Norway, for example, has
the money from the oil industry in a trust fund, which they use for
certain common purposes. You talk about rebuilding this great
university. Well, there needs to be some recognition that your natural
resources should be used to benefit all Libyans. And that’s another way
to promote national unity, to tell people in every part of Libya,
“You’re not going to be forgotten. You’re not going to be cut out.
You’re going to be part of Libya’s future, because we’re going to
protect the oil revenues – a certain percentage of it – for benefitting
all of Libya.” There are ideas out there like that, that if you reach
out, you can find out more about.
So I would encourage you to look at all kinds of possibilities for
better organizing and communicating from Libya to the rest of the world,
and then look at ways to integrate you, particularly economic, and then
look at ideas that you can transplant and bring back to Libya to
benefit the Libyan people.
Yes, this young woman right there in the second row.
QUESTION: Hello, welcome to Libya. My name is Sarah Spani. I’m
an honors graduate from this university, the school of engineering, and
I’m a member of women organization, name is (inaudible) Women’s
Association. My question is for the last four decades, Qadhafi didn’t
give any chance for Libyan people, women as well as men, to participate
in any type of political or civil activities, yet we have no political
parties. What is the best strategy, in your point of view, and fastest
strategy to encourage our people to involve more in the political life,
considering that we have elections in a matter of two years or less and
we have to elect our parliaments and our president. How do we do that?
How to encourage our people in the fastest time? Thank you very much.
SECRETARY CLINTON: That is an excellent and very important
question, because it is, as you say, absolutely essential to create
political parties, to create political agendas and platforms so people
know what you stand for and what they would be getting if they vote for
you. And the United States has for many years provided support to other
countries that are going through this process. We don’t have any
intention of picking winners or losers, but how do you do it? How do you
create a political party? How do you create a political platform? How
do you campaign? What are the techniques that are most useful to
reaching people?
And we have several NGOs that do this all over the world and are
certainly more than ready to help. So do the Europeans. They have a lot
of groups that do the same. And even Latin American countries that have
thrown off dictatorships in the last 20-30 years and are now democracies
are ready to help.
So we can certainly, through our Embassy and our Ambassador – Gene
Cretz is here with us – we can provide you with information and we can
also connect you up to groups in our country and help you access groups
in other places that can give you the kind of advice that you’re looking
for.
I think that some of the experiences that are more recent,
particularly in Latin America, maybe Central and Eastern Europe, in
countries like Malaysia, Indonesia – Indonesia has been a democracy for
10 years now – could be of great benefit to you. They’re very vibrant
democracies. They have political parties. Men and women run and get
elected. And I think that would be one of our principal objectives,
which is to help you look for and find the best ways to organize.
I want to emphasize how important it is that you organize. I mean,
what often happens post-revolutions is that people are exhausted. I
mean, it’s a terribly traumatic experience for a country and for people
to go through. And a lot of people want to just go home, they want to
get back to their jobs, back to their studies – totally understandable.
And the political process they will leave to somebody else. But in a
democracy, the best political process is the one that involves the most
people and gets people to feel strongly about their choices and what
they want from their leaders.
So I hope that you and all the young people here will get into the
political system, learn how to form parties, how to make coalitions,
recognize that in democracy compromise is essential. Because people do
come, they get elected from different places with different ideas, and
they have to then kind of work out what’s the best solution to reach.
And we have a lot of experience in this and we’d be more than happy to
provide some of that expertise.
Let me go way back to the gentleman sitting way back there. I don’t
want to forget the people in the back seats here. This man, right here
on the aisle. Yeah.
QUESTION: Hi (inaudible) graduate from dentist school. I’m
trying – I’m asking is there a possibility for making a program for
dentists who can train and do their internship in the USA, since here in
Libya it doesn’t have the dental equipment and to make better future
dentists. Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: I will look into that. I think that’s an
excellent suggestion. I will speak with our dental association when I
get back to the United States and see if we couldn't work out some kind
of exchange program that would assist you. I thank you for raising it.
And then the gentleman behind there in the first row.
QUESTION: Ask by Arabic?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Okay. My interpreter is here.
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) The United States of America
supported the right of the Libyan people to self-determination and
supported also the project for the Libyans to defend themselves. What
are the Libyan people able to prove in a short time in order to get all
that support from the United States, from everywhere, and the
Palestinians were not able in over 50 years to achieve it? What is that
the Palestinians need to do in order to get such a support like the one
you gave to the Libyan people?
SECRETARY CLINTON: We need to negotiate a state that will meet
the needs of the people. There are many examples around the world
where, through negotiations with both sides, we were able to set forth a
pathway to full statehood. It just happened in Sudan, not far from
Libya, about – starting about 10 years ago, ending in 2005. There was a
negotiation and resulted in a referendum and it resulted in a new state.
There is no shortcut to that, because all of these very complex
issues have to be resolved. And I take this very, very seriously, very
personally. You might remember when my husband was president, they got
very close but didn’t succeed. And it’s something that I am very
committed to following through on and intend to do everything I can to
try to bring about the negotiations, because otherwise you can’t declare
it, you have to achieve it through negotiations. That’s the only way
that it will actually be real.
So let’s see, this gentleman right there in the middle. Yes. Here comes the microphone.
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) Hello, Madam Secretary. I’m Hiba
Aboreg. Welcome to Libya. I’m Hiba Aboreg. I’m a medical student in this
university, and what I wanted to ask you is about freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is very important to the American way of life, and we
are very new to this democracy, so what I was wondering was what steps
do you think we, both as a government and as a people, can take to –
sorry. I’m kind of nervous.
SECRETARY CLINTON: No, you’re doing very well.
QUESTION: What do you think we can – what steps do you think
we can take to root the freedom of speech into the Libyan identity?
Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I do believe very strongly that
freedom of speech is absolutely essential to any democracy, so I think
there has to be a guarantee of freedom of speech in your constitution
and in your laws, which your new government will begin to pass, once you
have your parliament, and that there has to be also a respect imbued in
the people for freedom of speech. Because people in my country say
things all the time that I disagree with and that I think are wrong, but
we believe that more speech is the best answer to speech you don’t
agree with. So you make your case, you publish articles, you go on the
radio or the TV, now you go on the internet, and you make your position
known. So we hope that freedom of speech will be respected and legally
protected in the new Libya.
Oh my goodness, too many hands. I can’t – I don’t want to leave
people out in the back, because I always feel bad about that. The man in
the white shirt.
QUESTION: Maldrew Abdulli from Libya Times magazine. I would
like to ask you, the United States has been supporting Libya since the
beginning of this revolution. There are two things that the Libyan
people now are in need of it. The injured fighters, which already have
been now in hospitals and everywhere – would the United States be
interested to cure somehow the injured fighters which are in hospitals
now, or at least support them with medical equipment or medical staff?
Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes. And we will do both, and I thank you
for asking that. We have told the Transitional National Council that we
will transport some of the most seriously wounded to hospitals in the
United States. We will provide medical equipment and material that is
needed to operate your surgeries and other equipment that is required
for the care of your wounded. And we will work with other countries to
make sure that their needs are met.
And it’s not only the physical wounds, but we know that there are
also traumas, psychological problems that people who are in combat
experience. And that’s especially true when the people who won this
revolution were not professional soldiers. They came from all walks of
life. They had – many of them never fired a gun before, and they are
thrust into the bloodiest of conflicts, close quarter combat in places
throughout the country.
So we feel very strongly that we want to support taking care of the
injured, the wounded, in body and mind, and we want to work with Libya
to be able to care of your own people. So that’s one of my pledges to
you.
My goodness. Yes, young woman right there. Second in, yes.
QUESTION: Hello. I’m Mana Whity, student in athletics
department at Tripoli University. I would like to thank you for coming
here. I’m a bit nervous. I got a question for you: To my knowledge, the
Qadhafi regime has been created under Libyan (inaudible) and under
support of some Western countries. What measure the United States will
present to us to prevent such a regime to be created again – sorry –
especially in Libya?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I think that, certainly, the most
important thing now is to make sure that Qadhafi and his regime are
finally prevented from disrupting the new Libya. And as you know, we had
a very hostile relationship with Qadhafi over many years because of his
behavior and because of his actions, both inside of Libya and outside
of Libya. We did appreciate the decision that he made a few years ago to
do away with his nuclear program, because that made it possible for the
world to be safer and eventually for you to be more secure in your
revolution.
So we want to do everything we can to prevent him from causing
trouble for the new Libya. We want to make sure he’s brought to justice,
along with the people around him, his family members and others who are
still supporting him. And that’s what we intend to do to try to help
protect civilians from any reprisals by Qadhafi coming out of anywhere.
We don’t know where he is, but we hope he can be captured or killed soon
so that you don’t have to fear him any longer, and then you have to
move forward.
One of the problems you will face is how to reconcile different
people, how you will bring people into a new Libya and not spend your
time trying to settle scores from the past. That will be very hard.
Countries that have succeeded, like Chile or South Africa, have been
incredibly successful. Even Rwanda, where 800,000 people were killed,
has kept its eye on the future. Countries that keep looking over their
shoulders toward the past and they want to find the guy who did the bad
thing to their family 20 years ago and they want to do this and they
want to do that find it difficult to move forward. There’s a saying in
my country: “You can’t drive forward if you’re looking in the rearview
mirror.” So how do you overcome all of those terrible experiences and
feelings and stay focused on the future? That will be a hard task for
Libya. But I know you can do it.
Oh my goodness. Let’s see, how many more questions do we have? Let me
see here. I want to be sure to be fair in getting as many as possible.
Let me – this man right there, yep, and then I’ll come to you next,
okay?
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) (Inaudible) from the library and
information section (inaudible) from the removal of (inaudible) that
caused disturbance not only to Libyans, but to the entire world because I
did the documentation and archivals. My question is: What can be a
helpful exchange between our two countries, especially with information
management and libraries, and indexation such as for instance having
something like the Library of Congress is very famous in the whole
world, such (inaudible) has to do with all the departments of a
university. How can you help us with this kind of expertise? And thank
you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Could you repeat the question?
INTERPRETER: Yes. The question pertains, Madam Secretary, to his
field. He works in the archival and library and information management
of libraries. He’s very fascinated with the Library of Congress type of
proto model and was wondering how could the United States help his
university, his section – he’s with the entire university – how could
the United States offer such expertise to this field, which is very
important in information management and libraries and index section.
SECRETARY CLINTON: I will look into that. I think it’s a very
good question, and I will, again, take it back to the United States. I
will speak with our archivists and our library experts. You’re right
that the Library of Congress is a magnificent institution, and we’ll see
if we can provide some specific support for your information systems
here. So I hope that you will contact – I hope that the young dentist
and I hope you, sir, will come down and introduce yourself to our
ambassador so we can follow up with each of you, okay? Good.
And yes, uh-huh.
QUESTION: (In Arabic.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: I think she’ll wait, and then once you’ve
asked the question, she’ll translate the whole question so we can hear
it more easily.
QUESTION: (Via interpreter) Madam Secretary, my question that
pertains to the following: We believe that there is a new political
philosophy for our country, that is, what is referred to usually as a
liberalcrat or something to that effect. Do you believe that such a
philosophy can happen here, and how can we promote it and make it
happen?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I am not an expert on any particular
new philosophy, so I cannot address the specific question you asked me. I
can only tell you that I think there will be room for many philosophies
in the new Libya, because people will present points of view and you
will be able to test them and argue about them and present your case
about them. And I think through that kind of exchange of views in the
political process, in the media, in the university, you can come to what
are the best answers for Libya.
So you may have one philosophy and someone sitting over here may have
a different philosophy, but the two of you together perhaps can come up
with ways of presenting your views that will help move Libya forward.
And I think that should be the goal of everyone. What will make – at the
end of your efforts, are the people of Libya better off when you
stopped than when you started? Is the country coming together or pulling
apart? Are you creating a political and economic model that will be
sustainable over the generations?
Those should be the questions I would hope you would keep in mind.
Are we making lives better through what we are doing? Are we bringing
people together? Are we creating systems that will truly stand the test
of time? And I think every philosophy should be judged against those
kinds of questions.
Yes, young woman right there? Yeah.
MODERATOR: We will have one more time for questioning.
SECRETARY CLINTON: This – okay, I’ve called on this woman, the second row, second seat here. There you go.
MODERATOR: Will you please pass the --
QUESTION: Hi, (inaudible) from the Voice of Libyan Women. I
was wondering, as a woman who fought her way into politics on your own,
what’s your opinion about quota?
SECRETARY CLINTON: About what?
QUESTION: Quota.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Quotas. That’s never been an issue in my
country, but it has been an issue in many countries and I think that
there are many systems where quotas have been absolutely necessary in
order for women to get their foot in the door. So I would suggest that
you and your colleagues look at all the different kinds of quota
systems. There are quota systems in India, there are quota systems in
many countries in Africa, in other places in Asia. So there are many
countries which made the decision that in order to ensure that women
were – women’s voices were at the table, there had to be seats set aside
for women. And I think that makes a lot of sense in many different
countries.
So I would urge you to do a study, look at what’s worked and what
hasn’t worked, and where the results have made it possible for more
women to participate in political life. And it very well might work here
in Libya because you’re starting from a new system and nobody is an
expert in it. It’s going to be brand new. And I think you want to be
sure that women’s voices are not eliminated from the very beginning of
your democratic process because it would be hard to catch up.
So I think I would favor some form for Libya to start with, but I
don’t have an opinion about what that would look like. You would have to
design it.
QUESTION: I have a question.
You know what? There are so many hands that are up and --
MODERATOR: Sorry about that.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Let me, if I may, Mr. President. If you
will do this, Ambassador Cretz, will you stand up and will people who
work with you at our Embassy, will you raise your hand? Any of our
people from the Embassy, if you give your question to any of these men
and women who work at our Embassy, I will answer your question and they
will get the answer back to you, but – and I know there are about a
hundred left, so I will do that to all of you. Thank you. (Applause.)
MODERATOR: Okay. We would like to thank very much, Your
Excellency. Time is running out. And welcome back again to Libya. Thank
you so much.
SECRETARY CLINTON: I hope to come back to the new Libya. Thank you. (Applause.)
MODERATOR: Okay. This is a promise. This is a promise, okay? (Applause.)
